To most people, “3G” and “4G” refers to cell phone data – but to the grandchildren and great-grandchildren of Holocaust survivors, these terms are shorthand for something far more meaningful. What does it mean to be a third- or fourth-generation survivor? Is trauma transmitted through epigenetics, or inherited along with family stories and heirlooms? Join Tablet Magazine Deputy Editor Stephanie Butnick, co-host of the leading Jewish podcast Unorthodox, in this new series exploring these questions and more with a changing roster of guests.

In the first series installment, Stephanie is joined by Alyssa Greengrass Sommer and David Wachs, grandchildren of Holocaust survivors who are dedicated to sharing their grandparents’ stories with audiences around New York City.

Watch the program below.